A Guide to an Efficient Hobopolis (AKA Aoi's Killer Hamster Guide!)

[Aoi]

Note: The values for the modular section are somewhat outdated as changes have occurred since this was formulated. Posted upon request. (And, again, I submit my request for historical run information. =P)


[RO]ster:
(SA)1 TBD
(PM) TBD
(SC) TBD
(TT) TBD
(DB) TBD
(AT) TBD
(XX) Whoever has the most Hobo Codes

[ZZ] Anybody with CLEESH [LAMB]
[##] A specific member of team, but ONLY that one person for ease of organization

Skill requirements:
[RO]
   CLEESH
(TT)
   Spectral Snapper

Equipment requirements:
[RO] Full sewer kits, PER PERSON (178,500)2
   No-Restock:
      21 Oils of Oiliness (25,200)
      7 Gatorskin Umbrellas (29,400)
      7 Unfortunate Dumplings (85,400)
      7 Bottles of Ooze-O (31,500)
      7 Sewer Wads (7,000)
   Appropriate instruments
   Required personal equipment
(SA) Ol' Scratch's ash can or Codex of Capsaicin Conjuration
(PM) Wand of Oscus or Cookbook of the ****ed (or Flavor of Magic)
(DB) 15/30 cold phials, depending on Impetuous Sauciness (16,500/33,000)3
(AT) 15/30 sleaze phials, depending on Impetuous Sauciness (15,000/30,000)4
Summary equipment costs: 1,281,0005

Recommended equipment:
Tattered scraps of paper to save turns that would otherwise be spent CLEESHing. (Modular)

Calculation assumptions6:
1+1+3+1+5+5 pattern of sewers7
8 kills per scarehobo8
100 kills per 6-man mosh9
All numbers given are expected to be approximate.

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Strategy

Sewer: (65) (0-0)10
   [ZZ]
      1 turn
         Gets caught in cage
   [##]
      15 turns
         Combat noncombat adventures; CLEESH everything
         Open grates only
   [RO]
      7 turns per person
         Combat noncombat adventures; CLEESH everything
         Take tunnels

Town Center:

   Stage 111: (644) (709) (644)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats
      (SA)
         Kill 108 Hobos12
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 108 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 107 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 107 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 107 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 107 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      Hobo Count: 644
         108 Boots
         108 Guts
         107 Skins
         107 Skulls
         107 Eyes (pairs of)
         107 Crotches
      Remaining: 2356

   Stage 2: (0) (709) (856)
      [##]
         Create 107 scarehobos
            Hobo Count: 1500
               1 Boots
               1 Guts
            Remaining: 1500

   Stage 3: (14) (723) (100)
      [RO]
         Equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      Hobo Count: 1600
         1 Boots
         1 Guts
         0 Skins
         0 Skulls
         0 Eyes
         0 Crotches
      Remaining: 1400
        

   Stage 4: (51) (774) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
      Hobo Count: 1800
         1 Boots
         1 Guts
         1 Skins
         1 Skulls
         0 Eyes
         0 Crotches
      Remaining: 1200

   Stage 5: (51) (825) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
      Hobo Count: 2000
         1 Boots
         1 Guts
         1 Skins
         1 Skulls
         1 Eyes
         1 Crotches
      Remaining: 1000

   Stage 6: (51) (876) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
      Hobo Count: 2200
         1 Boots
         1 Guts
         1 Skins
         1 Skulls
         2 Eyes
         2 Crotches
      Remaining: 800

   Stage 7: (51) (927) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
         Adventure/Cleesh until A Tent! is entered to mosh
         Mosh once [RO] requirements have been met
      Hobo Count: 2400
         1 Boots
         1 Guts
         2 Skins
         2 Skulls
         2 Eyes
         2 Crotches
      Remaining: 600

   Stage 8: (51) (978) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
         Adventure/Cleesh until A Tent! is entered to mosh
         Mosh once [RO] requirements have been met
      Hobo Count: 2600
         2 Boots
         2 Guts
         2 Skins
         2 Skulls
         2 Eyes
         2 Crotches
      Remaining: 400

   Stage 9: (51) (1029) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 8 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 7 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
         Adventure/Cleesh until A Tent! is entered to mosh
         Mosh once [RO] requirements have been met
      Hobo Count: 2800
         3 Boots
         3 Guts
         2 Skins
         2 Skulls
         2 Eyes
         2 Crotches
      Remaining: 200

   Stage 9: (43) (1072) (200)
      [RO]
         Avoid all noncombats until kill requirement has been reached
         Once kill requirement has been reached, equip instrument and CLEESH until A Tent! has been achieved
            [RO] primary members enter the tent in the back.
            [XX] member enter the tent in the front.
            [XX] member mosh once [RO] primary are in place.
      (SA)
         Kill 6 Hobos
            Hot [Appropriate cookbook, Saucegeyser]
      (PM)
         Kill 6 Hobos
            Stench [Appropriate cookbook/skill, Weapon of the Pastalord]
      (SC)
         Kill 6 Hobos
            Physical
      (TT)
         Kill 6 Hobos
            Spooky [Spectral Snapper]
      (DB)
         Kill 6 Hobos
            Cold [Phial]
      (AT)
         Kill 6 Hobos
            Sleaze [Phial]
      [##]
         Create 7 scarehobos
         Adventure/Cleesh until A Tent! is entered to mosh
         Mosh once [RO] requirements have been met
      Hobo Count: 3000
         1 Boots13
         1 Guts
         0 Skins
         0 Skulls
         0 Eyes
         0 Crotches
      Remaining: 0

   Stage 11: (1) (1073) (0)
      Kill Hodgman
      Margin for Imaginary Hamster: 26

   Stage 11, Complete: (1) (1744) (0)
      Kill Hodgman
      Margin for Disgusting Technicolor Trenchcoat: 556

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MODULAR
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Exposure Esplanade14 (~250)15
   [RO]
      Standard procedure. (Insufficient data for analysis.)

Ancient Hobo Burial Ground16 (147~)17
   [##a]
      Go to The Purple Light District
         Boost combats.
         CLEESH all combat encounters.
         Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd once.
   [##b]
      Go to Ancient Hobo Burial Ground
         Boost noncombats.
         CLEESH all combat encounters.
         Avoid all noncombat encounters except A Chiller Night: Study the hobos' dance moves thrice.
         Avoid all noncombat encounters except A Chiller Night: Dance with them twice.
   [##c]
      Repeat [##a]
      Go to Ancient Hobo Burial Ground
         Boost noncombats.
         CLEESH all combat encounters.
         Avoid all noncombat encounters except A Chiller Night: Dance with them five times.
      Repeat until 23 dances have been completed.18
   [##d]
      Repeat with two different people.
   [##e]
      Kill 50 Hobos.
   [##f]
      Kill Zombo.

Burnbarrel Boulevard19 (~91)20
   [##a]21
      CLEESH all noncombats.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Tired: Put a tire on gently until it erupts of its own accord.22
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Tired: Put a tire on gently until 40 tires have been placed.
      Kill remaining hobos manually.
   [##b]
      Kill Ol' Scratch.

The Purple Light District23 (~82-~131)24
   [##a]25
      Boost combats.
      CLEESH all combat encounters.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd 21 times.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to get inside 20 times.
         Pick several fights 20 times.
   [##a2]
      Boost combats.
      CLEESH all combat encounters.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd 21 times.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to get inside 16 times.
         Pick several fights 16 times.
      Kill remaining hobos manually.
      Kill Chester.
   [##b]
      Boost combats.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd once.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to get inside once.
         Pick several fights once.
   [##c]
      Repeat [##b] 10 times in total.
   [##d]
      Kill 20 hobos manually.
   [##e]
      Kill Chester.

The Heap26 (~101)27
   [##a]
      Boost combats.
      CLEESH all combat encounters.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except You vs. The Volcano: Kick stuff into the hole 100 times.
   [##b]
      Kill Oscus.

MODULAR TURNS: (671)28

Additional Consideration:
Create the scarehobos one at a time once you're within a few of the threshold and have somebody CLEESH their way around looking for A Tent! To minimize wastage. (-Variable)
After every 7 (possibly trashcanos, bring everybody in and hunt for I Refuse! (+98/+84)
Calculate Burial/Sleaze at the same time. (-6)[/font]

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Food/Booze indicies, annual calendar and farming calculators available as well!

[Zaranthos]

The topic should probably be changed from A Guide to an Efficient Hobopolis to something like Hobopolis Stunt Run Guide. A specific guide for hamster runs would also be a good idea even though this pretty much contains all the information for that.

[sk1j]

Cool, very useful, well laid out guide

[King Beanface]

A specific guide for hamster runs would also be a good idea even though this pretty much contains all the information for that.

The above *is* pretty much a hamster guide, when only following the town square guide.

And Aoi, can you please explain to me how you've come to the decision on the PLD efficiency?

The Purple Light District23 (~82-~131)24
   [##a]25
      Boost combats.
      CLEESH all combat encounters.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd 21 times.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to get inside 20 times.
         Pick several fights 20 times.
   [##a2]
      Boost combats.
      CLEESH all combat encounters.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd 21 times.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to get inside 16 times.
         Pick several fights 16 times.
      Kill remaining hobos manually.
      Kill Chester.
   [##b]
      Boost combats.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to flimflam the crowd once.
      Avoid all noncombat encounters except Getting Clubbed: Try to get inside once.
         Pick several fights once.
   [##c]
      Repeat [##b] 10 times in total.
   [##d]
      Kill 20 hobos manually.
   [##e]
      Kill Chester.

I make the most efficient case to be:

CLEESH all.
Flimflam 21 times (dependent on EE cold water diverts, minimum 13 flimflams required in order for BG to be efficiently danced)
Start several fights 34 times (this being the point at which total hobos killed by the brawl stops being more efficient than killing manually)
Kill the remaining ~ 13 manually.
Kill chester.

Total turns spent if you're being brutally efficient with your CLEESHing: 21 + 34 + 13 + 1 = 69

Formulas applied are
Starting hobo count = 500
Barfight kills 10% of all remaining hobos rounded.
Remaining hobos - 10% = x

As you can see below, unless my program is broken, 34 barfights is the optimal point:

Before any barfights : 500 - 0 = 500
After 1 barfights : 500 - 50.0 = 450.0
After 2 barfights : 450.0 - 45.0 = 405.0
After 3 barfights : 405.0 - 41.0 = 364.0
After 4 barfights : 364.0 - 36.0 = 328.0
After 5 barfights : 328.0 - 33.0 = 295.0
After 6 barfights : 295.0 - 30.0 = 265.0
After 7 barfights : 265.0 - 27.0 = 238.0
After 8 barfights : 238.0 - 24.0 = 214.0
After 9 barfights : 214.0 - 21.0 = 193.0
After 10 barfights : 193.0 - 19.0 = 174.0
After 11 barfights : 174.0 - 17.0 = 157.0
After 12 barfights : 157.0 - 16.0 = 141.0
After 13 barfights : 141.0 - 14.0 = 127.0
After 14 barfights : 127.0 - 13.0 = 114.0
After 15 barfights : 114.0 - 11.0 = 103.0
After 16 barfights : 103.0 - 10.0 = 93.0
After 17 barfights : 93.0 - 9.0 = 84.0
After 18 barfights : 84.0 - 8.0 = 76.0
After 19 barfights : 76.0 - 8.0 = 68.0
After 20 barfights : 68.0 - 7.0 = 61.0
After 21 barfights : 61.0 - 6.0 = 55.0
After 22 barfights : 55.0 - 6.0 = 49.0
After 23 barfights : 49.0 - 5.0 = 44.0
After 24 barfights : 44.0 - 4.0 = 40.0
After 25 barfights : 40.0 - 4.0 = 36.0
After 26 barfights : 36.0 - 4.0 = 32.0
After 27 barfights : 32.0 - 3.0 = 29.0
After 28 barfights : 29.0 - 3.0 = 26.0
After 29 barfights : 26.0 - 3.0 = 23.0
After 30 barfights : 23.0 - 2.0 = 21.0
After 31 barfights : 21.0 - 2.0 = 19.0
After 32 barfights : 19.0 - 2.0 = 17.0
After 33 barfights : 17.0 - 2.0 = 15.0
After 34 barfights : 15.0 - 2.0 = 13.0
After 35 barfights : 13.0 - 1.0 = 12.0
After 36 barfights : 12.0 - 1.0 = 11.0
After 37 barfights : 11.0 - 1.0 = 10.0
After 38 barfights : 10.0 - 1.0 = 9.0
After 39 barfights : 9.0 - 1.0 = 8.0



Finally, your treasure hunting consideration:

Additional Consideration:
...
After every 7 (possibly trashcanos, bring everybody in and hunt for I Refuse! (+98/+84)

This is (technically) wrong. It's 7 trashcanos to get I Refuse! for the first man in. Then it increments one per player to get I Refuse! So for any team of players, the formula is:

7 + (P - 1) = T

Where P is number of participants
And T is the number of trashcanos required for all to be able to get I Refuse!

Thanks so much for compiling the hamster run guide - I've been praying you'd republish that in some way

[Aoi]

Several of the mechanisms were changed since I composed this file. (My enthusiasm for keeping it maintained waned slightly, due to some circumstances that arose around then.) I'm afraid I can't remember my reasoning on everything, but the footnotes, which I took care to maintain pretty tightly, should help.

As a result, the information regarding the cold zone became much more spaded out (leaving my numbers sort of in limbo) and I seem to recall sleaze was explicitly changed, frustrating all the spaders.

If anybody wants to update it, be my guest. =P