Author Topic: 7L Smack?  (Read 216 times)

jamfan14

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7L Smack?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:22:25 PM »
http://forums.kingdomofloathing.com/vb/showthread.php?t=180624

 On clan size and collective benefits... [Whining]
Okay. Recently collective clan things have been getting more salient in KoL, such as the Awesome Ball Pit, the ViP stuff like the Crimbo Tree, etc.

I think that the, on the whole, this content is generally fun and good. However, I have some reservations about the relationship between the mechanical impact of this new content and the direction that it's pushing KoL as a social game.

Basically, it's mechanically superior to be in a clan consisting of 800 people with little contact with each other to being in a clan consisting of 20 people who consider each other friends. (Or, at least, internet friends.) Even if those 20 people are super-committed to their little clan to the point where they have no problems getting a 10,000 ball pit, a crimbo tree in their ViP room, etc, they're making comparatively big per-capita sacrifices compared to the average Seven Lances member. If KoL is very much a social game to you to the point where it's worthwhile to sacrifice mechanical benefits so that you can be in a clan with your friends, then that option is still open to you, but the point is that now you definitely have to make a choice between them. (Unless, of course, you are a member of a big clan and you find that clan to be good socially too. I don't want to paint all big clans as soulless, or, for that matter, paint all small clans as sociable and friendly.)

I don't think this is exactly what anyone wanted. I certainly doubt that Jick has some nefarious plan to drive people from small clans into the megaclans. The point is, though, that this is what I'm seeing as a likely effect.

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what gives? what did we do to hurt his feelings?

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Re: 7L Smack?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2010, 08:20:43 PM »
Oh phew. I thought for a sec you were saying that you don't consider us friends, jammy.  I'm not sure what their beef is with us. Clearly we're all made of win and they're sad they didn't pick 7L from the get go. :)

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Re: 7L Smack?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2010, 08:46:57 PM »
Yeah, that's weird. I don't consider us a "mega-clan" rather a sort of strange, sometimes dysfunctional :), extended friends and family...who club seals together.

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Re: 7L Smack?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 12:02:24 AM »
* Zaranthos begins daydream
Xenthes whitelists whining mega-clan hating n00b
n00b joins clan and prepares to dive into the ball pit
Xenthes boots n00b from the clan
* Zaranthos wakes up and eats bacon
Social Security bankrupt, Medicare bankrupt, Medicaid bankrupt, Post Office bankrupt, and now the government is taking over healthcare? Democrats care about everything except selling our children into slavery I guess. I'm ashamed to say I used to be a Democrat. http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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Re: 7L Smack?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2010, 01:14:27 AM »
Haha, I read that thread too.

Too bad not all of our clannies are active. Otherwise the Kingdom would be ours!

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Re: 7L Smack?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2010, 09:01:14 AM »
ahh.. to be an average Seven Lances member...  ;)

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Re: 7L Smack?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2010, 08:24:44 PM »
Ah yes, the magical land of Seven Lances where all 2500 members contribute and clan chat is soulless and completely lacking in comradery.  Not sure this was a dig at us, he's just butthurt that he and his friends are poor.