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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2008, 03:45:14 PM »
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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2008, 08:04:53 AM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Why can't Jick release a new familiar or two for a while - I don't collect those!

* teh_bigquack picks up the Grimoire as he needs the shiny shiny goodness

First impressions are that this is a fun IotM - hey, anything that lets me massage Spuds feet gets my vote :)
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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2008, 04:44:06 PM »
I don't have a clue what the items do, but its another summoning one, and i like those in general (though at the cost of not being able to summon joke items :( ).

Flavoured foot massages though...  ???

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2008, 04:50:02 PM »
Flavoured foot massages though...  ???

It is clear to me that Jick consulted with Pacone on this.  :o
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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2008, 05:13:44 PM »
Z when i get one i am going to foot massage the buffbot all day lol

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #95 on: April 01, 2008, 05:59:49 PM »
haven't had a chance to try any except the belt which blocks attacks a couple of times before breaking

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2008, 12:21:18 PM »
we should try to spade the effects of some of the new items... like the nerf dart thing? what does it do? it *could* give you -items and -initiative but what if they were just saying that so you would be like mad at the person that nerfed you?

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2008, 02:39:07 PM »
or we could let the people who know how to properly spade do it for us and check the wiki in a few days

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2008, 03:17:16 PM »
where's your spirit of adventure?
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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2008, 03:40:05 PM »
don't know, let me look it up on the wiki to see if I can find it

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #100 on: April 02, 2008, 06:28:23 PM »
Good thinking. Laziness ftw.

Also, what about any good uses for the hatrack, but in hardcore? It's obviously okay in softcore when you can have a time helmet, a jew hat, all the goodies and such... but like what about practical uses? I got one, but I don't really want to use it unless it will be of good future use.

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #101 on: April 03, 2008, 06:15:28 AM »
You can't use use the foam dart on people in Ronin or HC. I tried nerfing someone (anonsi I believe) and I got a message saying that it can't be used on people in Ronin or HC.
So we can't use them on the newly ascended unless they do casual.

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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #102 on: April 03, 2008, 08:14:11 AM »
Good thinking. Laziness ftw.

Also, what about any good uses for the hatrack, but in hardcore? It's obviously okay in softcore when you can have a time helmet, a jew hat, all the goodies and such... but like what about practical uses? I got one, but I don't really want to use it unless it will be of good future use.

I'm two days into a HC TT run which will be 100% Hatrack.  So far it feels quite a bit like the start of a Bad Moon run in that I am not getting a great stat return without a volleyball effect (only level 4 after day 2), though the chef's hat has been nice for its combination of leprechaun and serious damage (5xweight from what I can see), letting me buy soda water to fuel some buffs.  The lack of good hats at a low level is a bit of a pain but I can see some decent hats coming up soon, and I have armourcraftiness which will be very helpful at the higher levels.  It has proven somewhat interesting in that the weight cap of the low-level hats means that it is pointless whacking on leash and empathy, so some MP savings there to stick into candy hearts.

I'm quite tempted to keep the hatrack on for my next run (HC DB) as I will have a SS Skullcap from the start.

Okay, a couple of days on now (mid-level 6) - and I weakened and looked at the discussion on the KoL forums on the hatrack for a few tips.  The key benefit of the hatrack lies in its ability to act much higher than its weight would suggest when equipped with certain hats e.g. as a double weight volleyball with a foolscap fools cap and a triple fairy with a balloon hemlet.  Very nice.  Very nice indeed - having an effective 30lb fairy as soon as I hit the knob kitchens has seen a noticeable increase in mushroom and sausage drops.

On the other hand, with the exception of Von Ratsworths hat, there is little scope for the hatrack to regenerate MP which is slowing me down a little.

edit: okay, finished the hatrack run a few days ago.  Overall the hatrack is a good familiar, particularly its ability to act far more powerfully than its weight would suggest and there is no shortage of hats during the higher levels.  Personally I found the lack of options mid-game a problem - my hatrack was weight limited by what I had available which reduced its overall effectiveness, particularly as this was a 100% run, meaning it hit 20lbs relatively quickly.  I think that armourcraftiness is key in enabling you to tailor the hatrack more closely to what you want it to be and in reducing the amount of RNG screwage suffered.

A fun familiar, but you really have to get to know your hats when using it!

Overall: great in the early levels, great in the late levels.  Levels 6-9 cause some difficulty, seeing the hatrack weight limited by the hats available.  I suspect it has the potential to be one of the most optimal familiars in the game, once you know how to get the best out of it.
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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #103 on: April 05, 2008, 01:58:53 PM »
I'm still pulling for them to implement zapping a foam dart into a thermonerfular bomb.
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Re: Item of the Month Discussion
« Reply #104 on: April 05, 2008, 07:01:44 PM »
are the pilgrim shields good? i'm kind of considering selling mine. i never really used it when i was in softcore... is it a good d1/d2 pull?